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Gilly-Bhoy's avatar
Gilly-Bhoy
Level 6
16 years ago

Collections - Recommended settings?

Hi All,

We have enabled collections for our EV for our File Server as we don't want 1000's of little files that take forever to back up.
We currently have the following settings implemented for Collections on our Vault Store:
-Daily File Collection times 10.00 through 16.00
-Max Collection file size: 90MB
-Collect files older than: 10 Days

We wanted to reduce the "Collect files older than" value to 5 days. What impact (if any) would this have?
Are the other settings recommended?

In addition we want to back up the Vault Store (with BE11d) during the day. Are there any implications for doing this?

Thanks in advance,
Gilly
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  • Wayne_Humphrey's avatar
    Wayne_Humphrey
    16 years ago
    Hiya Gary,

    That's why partitions are used :) In larger organizations, take the bank I am working at now, we don't use partitions however we create a new partition every quarter, that way we only need to backup up to 500GB partitions at a time. There is no need to backup a closed partition once its closed and backed up successfully.

    For me, and quite a few others there are more cons than pros in using cabs in this day and age, I can understand using it pre partitions. This is just my opinion, however do a search and you will find some interesting topics i have covered a couple of time on just this subject. However, the outcome on the other threads, all come down to agreement with me, collections are nice, but there are better ways in doing it as index rebuilds and everything else with collections are a nightmare.

    --wayne
  • dfwood's avatar
    dfwood
    Level 4
    16 years ago
    Backing up the database during the daytime will stop the collections working as it stops EV from being updated. However retrievals should work fine.

    I've setup collections with the same setting as yours but my Max Collection File Size is 25MB.
  • Wayne_Humphrey's avatar
    Wayne_Humphrey
    Level 6
    16 years ago
    Simple,

    Don't use it :) Use the search I have covered pros and cons many times before..


  • Gilly-Bhoy's avatar
    Gilly-Bhoy
    Level 6
    16 years ago
    Thanks DFwood.

    @ Wayne.
    Interestingly we are pushing EV here in Ireland because of the advantages of backing up the CAB's as opposed to backing up the small files.

    There is another archiving product in the Irish Market but it has no "collection" facility (at present) and it's near impossible to back the files up!

    Thanks for the info
  • Wayne_Humphrey's avatar
    Wayne_Humphrey
    Level 6
    16 years ago
    Hiya Gary,

    That's why partitions are used :) In larger organizations, take the bank I am working at now, we don't use partitions however we create a new partition every quarter, that way we only need to backup up to 500GB partitions at a time. There is no need to backup a closed partition once its closed and backed up successfully.

    For me, and quite a few others there are more cons than pros in using cabs in this day and age, I can understand using it pre partitions. This is just my opinion, however do a search and you will find some interesting topics i have covered a couple of time on just this subject. However, the outcome on the other threads, all come down to agreement with me, collections are nice, but there are better ways in doing it as index rebuilds and everything else with collections are a nightmare.

    --wayne
  • Liam_Finn1's avatar
    Liam_Finn1
    Level 6
    16 years ago
     I agree with Wayne,

    When storing on a CIFS partition collection are not always the solution. Collections only really come into play when storing on a Centera