Symantec Backup Exec Upgrade license and off Site backup solution

[shaiksaj]

Hi All,

We have Symantec Backup Exec 11D with SQL agents,  Tandberg T24 Tape library with 1 arm,  we have scheduled 5 backup Jobs,

first of all my question is related to License,

Question No. 1     now we are planning to upgrade to new version backup exec 12 R2. 

in our  Job    1 database is scheduled as job daily      5 Tapes       Ultrium 3 400/800 GB

          Job    2 database is scheduled as job Weekly  3 Tapes       Ultrium 3 400/800 GB     

          Job    3 database is scheduled as job Monthly  1 Tape         Ultrium 3 400/800 GB

         Job    4 Other database                                   1 Tape        Ultrium 3 400/800 GB 

         Job   5 Active Directory backup                        1 Tape          Ultrium 3 400/800 GB

so   (as option library Expansion licneces ) actually howmany licences we have to purchase ? please advise me in detail....

Question No.2 

we have the backup setup at our Datacenter described as above....we are planning a offsite backup for the same bove jobs from the same server machinse and samedatabase etc.

my question is what we have to purchase licences in backup Exec.  shll we purchase new liceses seperately for this  or the same licence at datacenter enough ? 

your best advise is appreciates.

thanks and regards

[ZeRoC00L]

Q1: option library Expansion licneces ) actually howmany licences we have to purchase ? please advise me in detail....

Depending on how many tape-drives you have in your library. If there is only 1 tape drive, you do not need extra LEO (library Expansion Option) licences. For each extra drive you need a license.

[RahulG]

Ans1 :The library expansion license is based on the number of tape drive you have in your Library . By default you can use one tape drive without any license , any additional drive would need a license per drive .

Ans 2 : You dont really  need addtional license to perform  offsite backup

[shaiksaj]

that means in our Tapelibrary we have 11 tapes so we have to get 11 licences...?

our job is scheduled for example database backup job on 5 tapes, that means 1 get full then the backup goes to no.2 tape. eventhough we have to get 11 licences ?

if yes ...it seems no sence...

regarding off site backup... the off site is connected with wireless and the link is stable and good... so what is the best backup solution for offsite...brief please...

[shaiksaj]

Dear Rahul,

as i mentioned above about our backup system at our Data Center... 

we are planning additional offsite bakup at offisite location which is conected with wireless connectivity of 54 mbps..

so what is your suggested solution related to add additional offsite backup.

with same agents and same backup exec server can we schedule and manage the backups as well as 2 tape libraries  ? 

[shaiksaj]

as i mentioned above about our backup system at our Data Center... 

we are planning additional offsite bakup at offisite location which is conected with wireless connectivity of 54 mbps..

so what is your suggested solution related to add additional offsite backup.

with same agents and same backup exec server can we schedule and manage the backups as well as 2 tape libraries  ? 

[RahulG]

The Tape is the media to which the data is written , The license is based on the drive which writes to the tape. For eg if you have 2 drives you can run 2 concurrent backup job at the same time and you will need one LEO license for the additional drive. IF you have just one drive in your library you dont need any additional license , and the drive can write on N number of Tapes in the library.

Well backup exec cannot manage the a library which is at offsite location .

You can run duplicate backup from the onsite location to the backup to disk folder which is created on the Offsite NAS device or NTFS volume

 You will not get satisfactory data transfer rate over a wireless or Wan link.  It would be better to backup to some media on-site and then physically move that media off-site.

IF you are using Backup exec System recovery then you can do Offsite Copy You can use Offsite Copy to copy your latest recovery points to either a portable storage device, remote server in your network, or to a remote FTP server.

[RahulG]

Also you can go for the Symantec Protection  Network

refer following document

http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=HOWTO12735

http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH135299

[pkh]

1) LEO

If you are using stand-alone tape drive, i.e. tape drives that are not part of a tape library, you don't need any LEO licences.  For tape libraries,  count all the tape drives in all the libraries that you have and substract one.  This is the number of additional LEO licences that you need because the base BE product comes with 1 LEO licence.

2) remote location.

If you are going to use the BE there to backup or transfer data from the primary location, then you would need to buy additional licences for the copy of BE that is installed at the remote location.  To confirm, check with Symantec Licencing or your reseller.

[shaiksaj]

Dear Rahul,

that means... if we have 11 tapes in our Library we have to get 10 LEO licences.

 we have 5 jobs scheduled...even as scheduled ( only one tape is writing at a time....when it fill up goes to next tape....onwards )

what is your advice regarding Netbackup Appliance at our remote site ?

please advise

 thanks and regards

[shaiksaj]

that means... if we have 11 tapes in our Library we have to get 10 LEO licences.

 we have 5 jobs scheduled...even as scheduled ( only one tape is writing at a time....when it fill up goes to next tape....onwards )

or

4 LEO enough as BE is comes with 1 LEO

what is your advice regarding Netbackup Appliance at our remote site ?

please advise

 thanks and regards

[RahulG]

The LEO License is based on the drive and not on the Tape ...

If you have only one drive writing to all the tapes in the library you dont need any License .

If you have 2 drive , which allows you to run concurrent backup at the same time  then you would need 1 LEO license for the additional drive .

[RahulG]

As you mention "we have 5 jobs scheduled...even as scheduled ( only one tape is writing at a time....when it fill up goes to next tape....onwards )" it means you have only one drive in your library so you dont need additional LEO license ..

Netbackup license would be expensive then backup exec . You can install new Media server on the offsite location and then backup the data from the existing media server (which is on the datacenter) but you have to run the backup to disk instead of tape and then backup the data on the disk with the new media server . You would need a remote agent license installed on the new media server (offsite location).

Backup exec will not duplicate the backup set which is on tape to different tape using another backup exec server .