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Exchange Archiving vs EV Archiving?

Scott__Hastings
Level 5
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I am trying to fully articulate the value of EV to a client now that Exchange 2010 and 2013 are here. I know this is somewhere, but I can't find a white paper that goes over why EV Archiving instead of Exchange.

Can someone help?

 

THX!!

Scott D Hastings Sr
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Pradeep-Papnai
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Here is one blog which describe the comparsion between EV & Exchange archiving.

http://blog.koenvermoesen.be/2010/06/03/symantec-enterprise-vault-vs-microsoft-exchange-server-archiving/

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AndrewB
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as a Symantec partner you should have access to information that will help you support your case. have you exhausted those resources?

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TonySterling
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Yeah, dude.  Check PartnerNet I seem to remember a comparison sheet there.

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GabeV
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This post might help you on this. It has a comment from the EV Product Marketing Team regarding EV and Exchange 2010:

https://www-secure.symantec.com/connect/forums/detailed-comparision-between-ms-exchange-2010-and-enterprise-vault-archiving-and-retention-fe#comment-2668231

Top 10 Benefits of Symantec Archiving and Backup for Exchange 2010
 
1.       Manageable Mailbox Sizes – Keep Exchange mailboxes at manageable levels with age based and quota based archiving policies. Users get seamless access to the archive presenting archived email as if it were a PST, without the management or headaches associated with PST files.
 
2.       Anytime, Anywhere Access – Seamless access to archived email and archived PST files while offline, within Outlook Web Access(OWA), and on mobile devices.
 
3.       Tiered Storage – Automate the movement of information to the right storage tier, for the right amount of time based on value, age, and size – even place files for long term retention on tape or WORM storage for compliance. 
 
4.       Deduplication Everywhere – Introduce efficient single instance storage to Exchange to reduce storage resources whether in remote offices or in the data center across the archive and backups.
 
5.       Improve Migrations & Upgrades -Move older items out of Exchange and into Enterprise Vault to reduce the size of Exchange message stores by up to 90%. The reduction in the size of each message store allows you to move email to Exchange 2010 much faster, providing a reduction in the costs and time required for the migration process.
 
6.       Apply Consistent Policies – Comply with regulations and information governance policies by consistently applying retention and expiry policies to email. There’s no need to keep it any longer than necessary.  
 
7.       Reduce Backups – Archive first, then reduce backup windows even further by eliminating brick-level mailbox (MAPI) backups while retaining the ability to quickly recover individual emails and mailboxes.
 
8.       Recover Faster- Reducing the active message store size by archiving means less data to restore in the event of a disaster. Restore complete Exchange servers to any point in time or individual Exchange items within minutes.
 
9.       Find Information Faster – Enable end users to search across live and archived email with native Microsoft Outlook or Windows desktop search tools while giving legal teams the tools to search, discover, review  and implement legal holds with no IT dependencies.
 
10.   Manage More Data with Fewer Tools  - Information management doesn’t stop with email. Symantec’s information management products work across multiple information sources such as SharePoint, instant messaging, file servers and databases and allows you to centralize backup and archiving processes while applying the benefits of deduplication, retention and expiry.

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EV_Ajay
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Pradeep-Papnai
Level 6
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Here is one blog which describe the comparsion between EV & Exchange archiving.

http://blog.koenvermoesen.be/2010/06/03/symantec-enterprise-vault-vs-microsoft-exchange-server-archiving/

AndrewB
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as a Symantec partner you should have access to information that will help you support your case. have you exhausted those resources?

Pradeep-Papnai
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This blog have some more details.

http://msunified.net/2010/11/16/archiving-in-exchange-server-2010-vs-symantec-enterprise-vault/

TonySterling
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Yeah, dude.  Check PartnerNet I seem to remember a comparison sheet there.

GabeV
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This post might help you on this. It has a comment from the EV Product Marketing Team regarding EV and Exchange 2010:

https://www-secure.symantec.com/connect/forums/detailed-comparision-between-ms-exchange-2010-and-enterprise-vault-archiving-and-retention-fe#comment-2668231

Top 10 Benefits of Symantec Archiving and Backup for Exchange 2010
 
1.       Manageable Mailbox Sizes – Keep Exchange mailboxes at manageable levels with age based and quota based archiving policies. Users get seamless access to the archive presenting archived email as if it were a PST, without the management or headaches associated with PST files.
 
2.       Anytime, Anywhere Access – Seamless access to archived email and archived PST files while offline, within Outlook Web Access(OWA), and on mobile devices.
 
3.       Tiered Storage – Automate the movement of information to the right storage tier, for the right amount of time based on value, age, and size – even place files for long term retention on tape or WORM storage for compliance. 
 
4.       Deduplication Everywhere – Introduce efficient single instance storage to Exchange to reduce storage resources whether in remote offices or in the data center across the archive and backups.
 
5.       Improve Migrations & Upgrades -Move older items out of Exchange and into Enterprise Vault to reduce the size of Exchange message stores by up to 90%. The reduction in the size of each message store allows you to move email to Exchange 2010 much faster, providing a reduction in the costs and time required for the migration process.
 
6.       Apply Consistent Policies – Comply with regulations and information governance policies by consistently applying retention and expiry policies to email. There’s no need to keep it any longer than necessary.  
 
7.       Reduce Backups – Archive first, then reduce backup windows even further by eliminating brick-level mailbox (MAPI) backups while retaining the ability to quickly recover individual emails and mailboxes.
 
8.       Recover Faster- Reducing the active message store size by archiving means less data to restore in the event of a disaster. Restore complete Exchange servers to any point in time or individual Exchange items within minutes.
 
9.       Find Information Faster – Enable end users to search across live and archived email with native Microsoft Outlook or Windows desktop search tools while giving legal teams the tools to search, discover, review  and implement legal holds with no IT dependencies.
 
10.   Manage More Data with Fewer Tools  - Information management doesn’t stop with email. Symantec’s information management products work across multiple information sources such as SharePoint, instant messaging, file servers and databases and allows you to centralize backup and archiving processes while applying the benefits of deduplication, retention and expiry.

EV_Ajay
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Arjun_Shelke
Level 6
Employee Accredited

Hey Scott,

Here it is what you are looking for. 

How do I compare Enterprise Vault to Exchange 2010 archiving when talking with customers?

Many of us have been at a customer or partner recently where the conversation turns to why EV is still necessary given the new archiving/retention capabilities of Exchange 2010. To help with this conversation remember the following 6 points and talk the customer/partner through the EV story from our Platform approach to archiving via Storage Flexibility, PST Migration, EDiscovery, Content and finally through to an superior End User experience:

1. Platform

Archiving is often about more than just Exchange for many customers and that includes Exchange versions previous to 2010?

 Will the customers requirements change in the future and require more flexibility/additional capabilities?

 EX2010 native capabilities are about tactically solving a couple of use cases related to storage management within Exchange itself, EV is about setting up a strategic platform to help manage information across the customers organisation.

2. Storage Flexibility

EV provides a flexible storage layer which supports many different types of disk and non-disk based storage devices as well as embracing some of the more advanced capabilities of these devices such as native compression, single instance and WORM.

 EV also provides the capability to natively single instance and compress all archived content, regardless of the storage device, to ensure archived items have the smallest possible footprint.

 EV can tier data to different storage devices over time to ensure older items are still retained but are stored at the lowest possible cost.

3. PST Migration

PST migration is about more than just the migration of data! There’s location, identification, collection, migration, post processing, end user notification, error handling and more.

 Exchange native capabilities are CmdLet driven only and provide the migration part i.e. the actual ingestion of data from a specific PST file.

 EV’s flexible PST migration capabilities can be used to capture and eliminate PST files from end users desktops and centralised file servers or anywhere else they may exist. PST migration can also be fully scripted for flexibility.

4. Content

Exchange 2010 has no real solution for storing the amount of data generated by enabling mailbox journaling other than to store all the journal reports in journal mailboxes (remember there will be no storage optimisation of this data in Exchange).

 

 Exchange 2010 native archiving can index approx. 50 file types, EV can index over 400 file types. This is significant when searching for items in the archive is important.

 Exchange 2010 cannot archive calendar items or items stored in Public Folders. EV can archive any item in a users mailbox or Public Folder.

5. EDiscovery

EDiscovery with Exchange 2010 native capabilities is all about manual searching with little or no automation around scheduling searches or any real review capability.

 EV provides a full workflow capability to allow identification of content, search, review, tagging/marking, escalation, production and reporting.

 Exchange 2010 legal hold is per mailbox and is not applied immediately, it relies on the Mailbox Assistant running which itself is scheduled. EV legal hold is per item and is applied and enforced immediately.

6. End User

EV supports Outlook 2003, 2007 and 2010 access to the archive with no difference in functionality. Exchange 2010 only supports full access to its archive via Outlook 2010 with Outlook 2007 (+ hotfix) having limited access.

 Exchange 2010 archive is available when online and connected to Exchange only – it is not available when offline. EV provides full offline capabilities with the end users experience being the same on or off line.

 EV provides Mac users with an Entourage client for accessing archived items (Outlook 2011 client coming). Exchange 2010 provides no access to the Exchange archive from a Mac desktop.

Scott__Hastings
Level 5
Partner Accredited Certified

Thanks do much to everyone. This forum and the expertise that monitors it is just amazing!

 

TY!!

Scott D Hastings Sr

Arjun_Shelke
Level 6
Employee Accredited

Thanks for the compliments Scott... :)