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journal archive is failing

goof717
Level 5

hi- thanks for the time and effort.

i've going around in circles on this one. I have called Symantec EV support but so far they cant figure it out.  Our archiving on the journaling mailbox has stopped. 

scenario:

-exchange 2007 mailbox server

-separate exchange public folder server

the journal mailbox and EV system mailbox are both on the public folder server. Symantec has said it doesnt matter where the mailboxes are... and at one time this did work but now has stopped.

the journal mailbox has climbed up to 500k emails.  and growing.  i have recreated the tasks...that didnt help. the private queue is empty...but now says 1 but when you open it there is nothing there to purge.

also we are told that we cannot upgrade to 9.03 unless this is fixed.

any thoughts or ideas?  thanks again for your time.

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KarlW
Level 6
Employee

How new is the journal mailbox?  The first time EV passes through a new mailbox the view EV requests on the data will not exist in the Exchange database, for folders with a large number of items (typically the inbox of a journal mailbox) this can take some time.

Once this has completed EV then has to mark each item as we attempt to re-group bifurcated journal reports.  Nothing can be archived until this process has been completed.

One option in the short term is to create a new journal mailbox and repoint your databases/journal rules to this mailbox.  Create a new journal task for this mailbox which should hopefully keep up.

The old task/journal mailbox should eventually (but probably slowly) catchup.

Regards

Karl

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JesusWept3
Level 6
Partner Accredited Certified
It's difficult without seeing a DTrace to be honest But I think I would go for the nuclear option Stop and delete the journal task Remove the journal target from the VAC Delete the journals entry from the ExchangeMailboxEntry table Create a brand new system mailbox Add the journal target that will create a new task again that will point to the new system mailbox Also make sure that the journal mailbox isn't hidden and that you can log on to the mailbox on the EV server logged in as the evadmin account. When logging in make sure it doesn't ask you for credentials
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Percy_Vere
Level 6
Employee Accredited

You may want to re-install MSMQ also if you have bogus entries. Any idea what may have caused the archiving to stop - Any changes to Exchange or EV?

TonySterling
Moderator
Moderator
Partner    VIP    Accredited Certified

What version are you currently on?  I would recommend what JW2 said, post a dtrace if the nuclear option doesn't work.

Also, are there any errors in the EV app log?

KarlW
Level 6
Employee

How new is the journal mailbox?  The first time EV passes through a new mailbox the view EV requests on the data will not exist in the Exchange database, for folders with a large number of items (typically the inbox of a journal mailbox) this can take some time.

Once this has completed EV then has to mark each item as we attempt to re-group bifurcated journal reports.  Nothing can be archived until this process has been completed.

One option in the short term is to create a new journal mailbox and repoint your databases/journal rules to this mailbox.  Create a new journal task for this mailbox which should hopefully keep up.

The old task/journal mailbox should eventually (but probably slowly) catchup.

Regards

Karl

goof717
Level 5

we have version 8.0sp3.  

jw2- we did everything but delete the ExchangeMailboxEntry...im guessing thats on the sql backend?

karl - the new system mailbox was created last night... i havent tried a new journal mailbox yet... how will that affect the old mailbox?

 

and here is the bottom portion of dtrace log we did last night.  again thanks for all in the input and efforts...

 

 

:CArchivingAgent::IsEligibleForArchive(/O=CLASSIFIED VENTURES/OU=EXCHANGE ADMINISTRATIVE GROUP (FYDIBOHF23SPDLT)/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=CORP-SVC-EVJOURNAL1) |The message titled: Report MyMedia Report Daily is eligible for archive  |
149841 02:37:14.625 [6128] (JournalTask) <6264> EV:M CJournalPart::MakeJournalPartMsg - Considering Message [Report MyMedia Report Daily]
149842 02:37:14.625 [6128] (JournalTask) <6264> EV:M CJournalPart::MakeJournalPartMsg - Is a E2007 Journal Message? [True]
149843 02:37:14.625 [6128] (JournalTask) <6264> EV:M CJournalPart::MakeJournalPartMsg - Opening The Message
149844 02:37:14.703 [6128] (JournalTask) <6264> EV:M CJournalPart::ReadUniqueIdentifier - Message-Id: <4f9fc23ad500a_30bbf948eb4238@amruby1.apts.classifiedventures.com.tmail>
149845 02:37:14.718 [6128] (JournalTask) <6264> EV:M CJournalPart::MakeJournalPartMsg - Message Class Changed to [IPM.Note.EnterpriseVault.PendingArchive.Part]
149846 02:37:14.718 [6128] (JournalTask) <6264> EV:H :CArchivingAgent::IsEligibleForArchive() |Exiting routine |
149847 02:37:14.718 [6128] (JournalTask) <6264> EV:H :CArchivingAgent::IsEligibleForArchive() |Entering routine  |
149848 02:37:14.718 [6128] (JournalTask) <6264> EV:M GetCalculatedModifiedDate - calculated date - 1/5/2012 11:0.13 (PR_MESSAGE_DELIVERY_TIME)
149849 02:37:14.718 [6128] (JournalTask) <6264> EV:L :CArchivingAgent::IsEligibleForArchive(/O=CLASSIFIED VENTURES/OU=EXCHANGE ADMINISTRATIVE GROUP (FYDIBOHF23SPDLT)/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=CORP-SVC-EVJOURNAL1) |The message titled: Cars Collections Monthly Call Type Summary Report is eligible for archive  |
149850 02:37:14.718 [6128] (JournalTask) <6264> EV:M CJournalPart::MakeJournalPartMsg - Considering Message [Cars Collections Monthly Call Type Summary Report]
149851 02:37:14.718 [6128] (JournalTask) <6264> EV:M CJournalPart::MakeJournalPartMsg - Is a E2007 Journal Message? [True]
149852 02:37:14.718 [6128] (JournalTask) <6264> EV:M CJournalPart::MakeJournalPartMsg - Opening The Message
 
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8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    EVTaskGuardian.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    EVUpdatePlaceholderFormat.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    ExchangeItemsU.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    ExchangePolicySyncAPI.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    ExchangeSynch.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    ExportArchiveWizard.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    ExportArchiveWizardCHS.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    ExportArchiveWizardJPN.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    FileScreenServiceClientStub.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    FileScreenServiceps.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    FingerprintEngine.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    ForceMonitoringUtil.exe
3.2.661          3.2.661       FPCore.dll
3.2.661          3.2.661       FPLibrary.dll
3.2.281          3.2.281       fpos32.dll
3.2.47           3.2.47        FPParser.dll
3.2.661          3.2.661       FPStreams.dll
3.2.661          3.2.661       FPUtils.dll
3.2.661          3.2.661       FPXML.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    FSACluster.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    FSAReportingAgent.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    FSAReportingClient.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    FSAReportingClientStub.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    FSAReportingConfigUtility.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    FSAReportingService.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    FSAReportingUtility.exe
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    FSAReportingWebServiceConfig.exe
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    FSARunNow.exe
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    FSAUtility.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    IndexBroker.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    IndexBrokerps.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    IndexCheck.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    IndexChecksumValidation.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    IndexClient.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    IndexServer.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    IndexServerps.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       Interop.AzRoles.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    JournalMailboxManager.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    JournalTask.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    KVS.EnterpriseVault.AgentSyncHelper.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    KVS.EnterpriseVault.CacheManager.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    KVS.EnterpriseVault.Common.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    KVS.EnterpriseVault.ContentCacheRequestManager.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    KVS.EnterpriseVault.CustomProperties.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    KVS.EnterpriseVault.DirectoryAccess.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    KVS.EnterpriseVault.EVNoteStreamHelper.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    KVS.EnterpriseVault.FileServerArchiveCommon.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    KVS.EnterpriseVault.FileServerManagementStub.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    KVS.EnterpriseVault.Indexing.IndexAVS.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.AdminService.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.ArchivingControl.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.AuditWrapper.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.AuthClient.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.AutoStorageOnlineOpns.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.CustomRulesWrapper.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.DeDuplicationCache.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.DirectoryConnection.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.EVContentManagementAPI.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.EVJob.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.EVPstApi.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.EVSTGAPI.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.EVStoreAccessor.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.EVTargetHelper.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.FileScreenServiceClientStub.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.FileServerArchiveWrapper.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.FSAReportingClientStub.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.IndexClient.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.Interop.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.JournalMailboxManager.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.MigratorServer.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.NetAppHelper.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.PlaceholderServiceStub.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.RetentionAPI.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.StorageCommon.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.StorageManagement.dll
8.0.3.0          8.0.3.0       KVS.EnterpriseVault.Interop.TaskController.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    KVS.EnterpriseVault.LotusDominoCommon.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    KVS.EnterpriseVault.LotusDominoCustomFilter.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    KVS.EnterpriseVault.LotusDominoInterfaces.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    KVS.EnterpriseVault.LotusDominoMsgHandler.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    KVS.EnterpriseVault.MonitoringCommon.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    KVS.EnterpriseVault.NSFManager.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    KVS.EnterpriseVault.PstServiceCommon.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    KVS.EnterpriseVault.ServerManager.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    KVS.EnterpriseVault.SharePointArchiveCommon.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    KVS.EnterpriseVault.StorageCommon.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    KVS.EnterpriseVault.StorageFileManager.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    KVS.EnterpriseVault.StorageOfflineOpns.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    KVS.EnterpriseVault.StoreAccess.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    MessageType.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    MigratorServer.exe
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    MonitoringAccess.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    MonitoringAgent.exe
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    MonitoringCollectors.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    MonitoringConfigUtility.exe
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    MonitoringConsumers.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    MonitoringDataSets.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    MonitoringMiddleTier.exe
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    MonitoringMiddleTierInterface.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    MonitoringMiddleTierSink.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    MonitoringSyncClient.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    MonitoringWebAppConfig.exe
6, 0, 0, 11      6.0.0.11      NBUMigrator.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    NSFMigrator.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    NSFMigratorCHS.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    NSFMigratorJPN.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    NSFMigratorServer.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    NSFUIJobStatus.dll
1. 0. 0. 2       1. 0. 0. 2    ntapadmin.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    NTFSCenteraMigrator.exe
3.2.97           3.2.97        PAI_module.dll
8.00.1845        8.00.1845     PermissionBrowser.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    PlaceholderServiceps.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    PlaceholderServiceStub.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    PreReqScan.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    ProvisioningAPI.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    PstCollectorTask.exe
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    PstLocatorTask.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    PSTMigrator.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    PSTMigratorCHS.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    PSTMigratorJPN.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    PstMigratorTask.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    PSTUIJobStatus.dll
                               pthread.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    PublicFolderTask.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    RDScan.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    Reporting.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    RestServer.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    RetrievalTask.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    RtnFolder.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    ShoppingMain.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    ShoppingService.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    ShoppingServiceps.dll
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    SiteMan.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    SnapIn.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    SnapInCHS.DLL
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    SnapInJPN.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    SPSArchiveServiceps.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    StorageArchive.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    StorageArchiveps.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    StorageClients.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    StorageCommon.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    StorageCommonps.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    StorageCrawler.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    StorageDBComponent.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    StorageDBContext.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    StorageDelete.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    StorageDeleteps.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    StorageFileWatch.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    StorageFileWatchps.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    StorageManagement.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    StorageManagementps.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    StorageOnlineOpns.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    StorageOnlineOpnsps.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    StorageRestore.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    StorageRestoreps.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    StorageRuntime.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    StorageServer.exe
8.0.3.1845       8.0.3.1845    Symantec.EnterpriseVault.PowerShell.Snapin.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    TaskController.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    TaskControllerps.dll
1.0.3.3          1.0.3.3       TSMMigrator.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    Valkyrie.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    VaultCommonResource.dll
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    VaultConfiguration.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    VaultMessages.dll
4.71.1015.0      4.71.1015.0   Vbrun60.exe
8, 0, 3, 0       8.0.3.1845    XMLDataStream.dll

Percy_Vere
Level 6
Employee Accredited

The dtrace extract shows the items correctly being placed into part pending. Have you got the complete Dtrace?

TonySterling
Moderator
Moderator
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please post the trace as an attachment to you post. Pasting it into the body of your post makes it difficult to read.  :)

JesusWept3
Level 6
Partner Accredited Certified

so you have stuff there since january?
I think karls idea of creating a new journal mailbox and targeting that would be the best idea to get new items archiving.

The thing with a mailbox of that size is EV Scanning all of those messages then having to wait the 5 minutes to change it from a pendingPart to a pending  will just create a bigger and bigger backlog

https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-allen-turl-07370146

goof717
Level 5

i thank you all... looks like recreating the systemailbox and removing the journal tasks and the journal target from VAC. and then adding the journal target that created the new task.... as stated by JW2.  what got it going was patience...as Karl stated "Once this has completed EV then has to mark each item as we attempt to re-group bifurcated journal reports.  Nothing can be archived until this process has been completed.

there are about 3 messages in the journal private queue...its fluctuating. I saw it as high as 20.  so im guessing this will take about a day or more to catch up.   

I apologize for the spam of the dtrace file.  should i still post it now that it is working?  i would really like to get down to the root cause.  

and is there some type of monitoring i can setup so that when if it gets stuck again I can be warned?

 

thanks again for you efforts.

 

 

 

goof717
Level 5

nevermind.. the inbox is going back up again.  If I create a new journal mailbox how can i get the messages from the current journal mailbox.  and does the new journal mailbox have to reside on the Exchange server where the users reside?