Hi, bpexpdate -deassignempty don´t delete valid images of a tape??? I have some assigned tapes, with (I think) no images on it. I want to delete them, but it´s not possible, because they are assigned. Now I want to unassign them with bpexpdate. After that I want to delete them. I checked the tapes with bpmedialist -mcontents -m XXXXX -U Kind regards Dirk

This will do exactly what it says - any empty tapes are deassigned (unassigned) - which should then allow you to delete them (I presume you mean actually remove them totally from NB as they are no longer part of your environment) Normally run as part of the normal clean-up procedure (every 12 hours), but can be run manually if required.

bpexpdate -deassignempty will not delete valid images - it will simply deassign tapes where all images have expired and you don't want to wait for the 12-hourly cleanup. Another reason that will keep expired tape 'Assigned' is if the tape is frozen. Please show us output of one of these tapes: nbemmcmd -listmedia -mediaid <media-id>

nbemmcmd-output: NBEMMCMD, Version:7.1.0.4 ==================================================================== Media GUID: 7dc08c21-b768-410c-bb02-00e92b3b4c89 Media ID: ZP0758 Partner: - Media Type: HCART2 Volume Group: --- Application: Netbackup Media Flags: 1 Description: --- Barcode: ZP0758 Partner Barcode: -------- Last Write Host: vms-zv01 Created: 10/08/2007 10:50 Time Assigned: 01/02/2008 18:01 First Mount: 10/10/2007 01:33 Last Mount: 07/28/2008 19:49 Volume Expiration: - Data Expiration: 12/30/2017 18:01 Last Written: 01/02/2008 18:01 Last Read: - Robot Type: NONE Robot Control Host: - Robot Number: - Slot: - Side/Face: - Cleanings Remaining: - Number of Mounts: 7 Maximum Mounts Allowed: 0 Media Status: FULL MPX Kilobytes: 300968960 Images: 38 Valid Images: 38 Retention Period: 10 Number of Restores: 0 Optical Header Size Bytes: 1024 Optical Sector Size Bytes: 0 Optical Partition Size Bytes: 0 Last Header Offset: 0 Adamm Guid: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 Rsm Guid: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 Origin Host: NONE Master Host: vms-zv01 Server Group: NO_SHARING_GROUP Upgrade Conflicts Flag: Pool Number: 9 Volume Pool: 10Jahre Previous Pool Name: SCRATCH Vault Flags: - Vault Container: - Vault Name: - Vault Slot: - Session ID: - Date Vaulted: - Return Date: - ==================================================================== Command completed successfully.

There was a image on the tapes, but I have expired it. bpmedialist doesn´t show any media for this tape, and the GUI/Catalog shows also no images

Tape is FULL. 38 unexpired images on this tape that will only expire on 12/30/2017. Curious to see output of 'bpmedialist -m ZP0758'. Also check output of: 'bpimmedia -mediaid ZP0758'. *** EDIT *** There was a image on the tapes, but I have expired it. Did you expire after running nbemmcmd command? There were 38 images. Not just one. Once you have expired this tape, it will no longer show up in bpmedialist.

bpmedialist-output: Server Host = vms-zv01 id rl images allocated last updated density kbytes restores vimages expiration last read <------- STATUS -------> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ZP0758 10 38 01/02/2008 18:01 01/02/2008 18:01 hcart2 300968960 0 MPX 12/30/2017 18:01 N/A FULL I have expired the images in the morning.

bpexpdate -deassignempty

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Andy_Welburn
Level 6
11 years ago
This will do exactly what it says - any empty tapes are deassigned (unassigned) - which should then allow you to delete them (I presume you mean actually remove them totally from NB as they are no longer part of your environment)

Normally run as part of the normal clean-up procedure (every 12 hours), but can be run manually if required.
Marianne
Level 6
11 years ago
bpexpdate -deassignempty will not delete valid images - it will simply deassign tapes where all images have expired and you don't want to wait for the 12-hourly cleanup.

Another reason that will keep expired tape 'Assigned' is if the tape is frozen.

Please show us output of one of these tapes:

nbemmcmd -listmedia -mediaid <media-id>
Dirk_Mueller
Level 5
11 years ago
nbemmcmd-output:

NBEMMCMD, Version:7.1.0.4
====================================================================
Media GUID:                     7dc08c21-b768-410c-bb02-00e92b3b4c89
Media ID:                       ZP0758
Partner:                        -
Media Type:                     HCART2
Volume Group:                   ---
Application:                    Netbackup
Media Flags:                    1
Description:                    ---
Barcode:                        ZP0758
Partner Barcode:                --------
Last Write Host:                vms-zv01
Created:                        10/08/2007 10:50
Time Assigned:                  01/02/2008 18:01
First Mount:                    10/10/2007 01:33
Last Mount:                     07/28/2008 19:49
Volume Expiration:              -
Data Expiration:                12/30/2017 18:01
Last Written:                   01/02/2008 18:01
Last Read:                      -
Robot Type:                     NONE
Robot Control Host:             -
Robot Number:                   -
Slot:                           -
Side/Face:                      -
Cleanings Remaining:            -
Number of Mounts:               7
Maximum Mounts Allowed:         0
Media Status:                   FULL MPX
Kilobytes:                      300968960
Images:                         38
Valid Images:                   38
Retention Period:               10
Number of Restores:             0
Optical Header Size Bytes:      1024
Optical Sector Size Bytes:      0
Optical Partition Size Bytes:   0
Last Header Offset:             0
Adamm Guid:                     00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000
Rsm Guid:                       00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000
Origin Host:                    NONE
Master Host:                    vms-zv01
Server Group:                   NO_SHARING_GROUP
Upgrade Conflicts Flag:
Pool Number:                    9
Volume Pool:                    10Jahre
Previous Pool Name:             SCRATCH
Vault Flags:                    -
Vault Container:                -
Vault Name:                     -
Vault Slot:                     -
Session ID:                     -
Date Vaulted:                   -
Return Date:                    -
====================================================================
Command completed successfully.
Dirk_Mueller
Level 5
11 years ago
There was a image on the tapes, but I have expired it.

bpmedialist doesn´t show any media for this tape, and the GUI/Catalog shows also no images
Marianne
Level 6
11 years ago
Tape is FULL. 38 unexpired images on this tape that will only expire on 12/30/2017.

Curious to see output of 'bpmedialist -m ZP0758'.

Also check output of: 'bpimmedia -mediaid ZP0758'.

*** EDIT ***

There was a image on the tapes, but I have expired it.

Did you expire after running nbemmcmd command?
There were 38 images. Not just one.

Once you have expired this tape, it will no longer show up in bpmedialist.
Dirk_Mueller
Level 5
11 years ago
bpmedialist-output:

Server Host = vms-zv01

id     rl images   allocated        last updated      density kbytes restores
           vimages   expiration       last read         <------- STATUS ------->
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ZP0758 10     38   01/02/2008 18:01 01/02/2008 18:01 hcart2   300968960     0
              MPX   12/30/2017 18:01        N/A         FULL

I have expired the images in the morning.
Dirk_Mueller
Level 5
11 years ago
how can I list the backupid´s of all backups of this tape?

I looked with GUI/Catalog - and there copy 1, 2 and 3 for this tape. From 1.1.1970 - today.

There are no images.

Is it possible that there are 38 fragments of expired backups on it?
Marianne
Level 6
11 years ago

how can I list the backupid´s of all backups of this tape?

'bpimmedia -mediaid ZP0758'

What command did you use to expire tape/images?
Did you also run 'bpexpdate -deassignempty'?
The command is safe and will not expire/delete any valid, unexpired images.

You can see that NBU still sees 38 images with expiration date of 12/30/2017 18:01 .
Dirk_Mueller
Level 5
11 years ago
Now all Tapes are Scratch.

The bpmedialist returns with

"requested media id is not assigned to this host in the EMM database.

I think the bpmedialist showed only fragments, and now they have been deleted.

Is that possible?
Andy_Welburn
Level 6
11 years ago
Maybe one of the scheduled clean-ups has run in the meantime which has cleard down the fragments etc

(bpimage -cleanup/nbdelete -allvolumes/bpexpdate -deassignempty or something like!)

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