The Backup Exec team is delighted to announce registration for the next beta release of Backup Exec 2010 and 2012! This beta release supports VMware vSphere 5.1 and Microsoft Windows Server 2012 (and Hyper-V). It is available for BOTH Backup Exec 2010 R3 and 2012, and is expected to be delivered automatically to either platform (as long as you are under maintenance). Read this blog for more details

Hi, will incremental backup working in the beta realease? In BE 2012 Symantec has removed the option to use incremental backup by the use of the archive bit, they used Microsoft Change Journal. And the increment backup isn´t working reliable. http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH150397&profileURL=https%3A%2F%2Fsymaccount-profile.symantec.com%2FSSO%2Findex.jsp%3FssoID%3D1360243522698d7nGo39rRSKo56Om8t78mR0vsL3yKWtx44ASH

Hi Juergen - although I can't confirm what you asked you need to be more specific as I you have not mentioned that you are specifically asking about Synthetic Backups. Incremental backups by Archive bit do exist in BE 2012 already it is just not the default and cannot be set on a synthetic job

It was just announced that the beta has been pushed out another 2 months, now to the end of May. This is completely unacceptable. I am now pursuing other options.

At my workplace we have an internal joke. "It will be supported in the next version". In the beginning based on our CEOs answer if we suggested new features for our ASP platform. But the last years this joke is a company I have liked for many years, Symantec. I have worked with IT and hosting since 2001. In IT incidents and problems will happen. What do we do if our customers needs a new feature, an update to their accounting software with this years tax and vat percentages? What do we do if a server or network component breaks down? We work day and night until the problem is solved and our customers are happy. They need a working product today, not next year. And they hate big changes in UI ;) I believe that most Symantec products are used with products from Microsoft. Often very depentent connections exists between your products and their. It is too late to release your product when M$ releases their product to GA, the man in the street. A lot of enterprise and partners get the products long before that. And I believe that is a big part of your customers. It is far, far too late to use one year or more to support new M$ products. Our backup team holds on to BE 2010 after trying 2012. They hated it. I love new stuff, but I understand them. Why try to create the wheel instead of tuning the engine and add new features? Our Windows 8 clients was unsupported by SEP for several months until it finally got supported. So I had to put my security in your competitors hands for a while. Not good marketing. "What AV software are you using?" ... err normally SEP, but they don't support my new Windows OS. I hope you guys at Symantec manage to turn the tide. I hate to be a bitch and know most of the issues is "PEBKAC" in management. I like many of your products, when they finally releases. You should learn from the Dynamics CRM team, they release updates with both bugfixes and new feature every second month. And they listen to customer demands and wishes BEFORE they release stuff. Now they have just released an major update to their UI. Why aren't their customers screaming, like we see here with BE 2012? Because they listened to their users before doing major changes, so that when major changes happens, those changes are wanted by customers and are heartly welcomed. I hope that BE 2012 have learnt you guys at Symantec a lession and that BE 201x and other new products to come will be awesome. I hope you remembered support for Exchange 2013 and Sharepoint 2013 in your next update? You remembered that, didn't you?

Hi all - in case you missed it, the update is here. In short, beta in May and GA in July for both BE2010 and BE2012. Questions and comments welcome, and be sure to watch out for pre-release information and events coming here on Connect as well as on Spiceworks, Twitter, Reddit and Google+.

Announcing the new beta for Backup Exec

28 Replies

JuergenB
Level 6
12 years ago
Hi, will incremental backup working in the beta realease? In BE 2012 Symantec has removed the option to use incremental backup by the use of the archive bit, they used Microsoft Change Journal. And the increment backup isn´t working reliable. http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH150397&profileURL=https%3A%2F%2Fsymaccount-profile.symantec.com%2FSSO%2Findex.jsp%3FssoID%3D1360243522698d7nGo39rRSKo56Om8t78mR0vsL3yKWtx44ASH
Colin_Weaver
Moderator
12 years ago
Hi Juergen - although I can't confirm what you asked you need to be more specific as I you have not mentioned that you are specifically asking about Synthetic Backups.

Incremental backups by Archive bit do exist in BE 2012 already it is just not the default and cannot be set on a synthetic job
Clifton_Hasting
Level 3
12 years ago
It was just announced that the beta has been pushed out another 2 months, now to the end of May. This is completely unacceptable. I am now pursuing other options.
jenstf
Level 3
12 years ago
At my workplace we have an internal joke. "It will be supported in the next version". In the beginning based on our CEOs answer if we suggested new features for our ASP platform. But the last years this joke is a company I have liked for many years, Symantec. I have worked with IT and hosting since 2001. In IT incidents and problems will happen. What do we do if our customers needs a new feature, an update to their accounting software with this years tax and vat percentages? What do we do if a server or network component breaks down? We work day and night until the problem is solved and our customers are happy. They need a working product today, not next year. And they hate big changes in UI ;) I believe that most Symantec products are used with products from Microsoft. Often very depentent connections exists between your products and their. It is too late to release your product when M$ releases their product to GA, the man in the street. A lot of enterprise and partners get the products long before that. And I believe that is a big part of your customers. It is far, far too late to use one year or more to support new M$ products. Our backup team holds on to BE 2010 after trying 2012. They hated it. I love new stuff, but I understand them. Why try to create the wheel instead of tuning the engine and add new features? Our Windows 8 clients was unsupported by SEP for several months until it finally got supported. So I had to put my security in your competitors hands for a while. Not good marketing. "What AV software are you using?" ... err normally SEP, but they don't support my new Windows OS. I hope you guys at Symantec manage to turn the tide. I hate to be a bitch and know most of the issues is "PEBKAC" in management. I like many of your products, when they finally releases. You should learn from the Dynamics CRM team, they release updates with both bugfixes and new feature every second month. And they listen to customer demands and wishes BEFORE they release stuff. Now they have just released an major update to their UI. Why aren't their customers screaming, like we see here with BE 2012? Because they listened to their users before doing major changes, so that when major changes happens, those changes are wanted by customers and are heartly welcomed. I hope that BE 2012 have learnt you guys at Symantec a lession and that BE 201x and other new products to come will be awesome. I hope you remembered support for Exchange 2013 and Sharepoint 2013 in your next update? You remembered that, didn't you?
Drew_Meyer
Level 4
12 years ago
Hi all - in case you missed it, the update is here. In short, beta in May and GA in July for both BE2010 and BE2012.

Questions and comments welcome, and be sure to watch out for pre-release information and events coming here on Connect as well as on Spiceworks, Twitter, Reddit and Google+.
paulecoz
12 years ago
Hello all, i'm not sure if this is the same for BE 2010 R3 and BE 2012...but we still haven't upgraded from BE version 2010. I tried to push the BE Agent to a Windows 2012 server from console and it failed.

So after some research I decided to try an manual install of the BE agent on my Win2012 server. (on the Win2012 - i browsed to the BE Server - C:\Program Files\Symantec\Backup Exec\Agents\RAWSX64\ and ran Setup.exe ) It worked, of course it did warn me about the incompatibility, it just needed me to install .net 3.5. In this case i'm trying to restore backups to this new Win2012 server, I need to test that it can actually run backup jobs.

So at this point the BE agent is installed on Win2012 and running, no crashing, or problems that i see and I've restore almost a TB of data so far. I'm sure Symantec will tell us it's not supported, but until we have another option this might work for some of you.

enjoy
CraigV
Moderator
12 years ago
...this probably works for as many people as it doesn't for others. The forums are mainly rife with it not working, and you're right...the official stance is that it doesn't work. Put it into production and run into a problem restoring and I am sure you will not be helped.

Thanks!
HNeumann
Level 4
12 years ago
Hi Symantec,

it´s a joke isn´t it? Windows Server 2012 was released on 4th of September 2012!!!!!! Now it´s June 2013. For developers the beta was released before April 2012.

You are now testing the os for about one year!

By the way, when will you support Windows Server 2012 R2?? On July 2016?

Sorry, but i cannot laugh anymore...
ladynerd
Level 3
12 years ago
where can I obtain a copy of the beta? live update didn't pull BE 2012 SP2? Everything is up to date...
Clifton_Hasting
Level 3
12 years ago
Might want to pass this link on to the R&D teams for Backup Exec, this is the preview of Windows Server 2012 R2. I would like to upgrade to this WHEN IT RELEASES. Today is June 26, 2013. Let's see what happens. Will Unitrends, CA, and everyone else be ready before Backup Exec again? Please break this trend! http://technet.microsoft.com/en-US/evalcenter/dn205286.aspx?CR_CC=200142594