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jls987's avatar
jls987
Level 3
7 years ago

Oracle Backup channels failing

We are having a problem when one or more of the channels for an RMAN backup fails .  The backup starts with 6 channels, if one fails, the backup continues with 5.  This past weekend, 3 channels going...
  • Marianne's avatar
    Marianne
    7 years ago
    Have a look at this post https://vox.veritas.com/t5/NetBackup/Oracle-Application-Backups/m-p/843736 for replies by Genericus.
    You will see how rman script can be customized to rerun failed jobs.

    If you have problematic drives or media, then not a good idea to have multiple channels going to the same drive/media. Look at schedule MPX levels.

    You may also want to consider introducing disk as first stage of your backups.
    Dedupe preferrably if budget allows.
  • Genericus's avatar
    Genericus
    7 years ago

    I do not know of any mechanism to automatically restart channels, if one fails the job continues with one fewer channel.

    Our only solution is to run the backup as SYSDATE-X, so the job could be restarted and not attempt to re-backup pieces already done. ALSO, we had our OPS staff monitor the job and kill and restart if the number of child jobs falls below a certain level. 

    Most of our issues went away once we went to the data domains, so far they accept the data as fast as we can send it. We were able to increase the number of channels.

    BEWARE! If you are sending packets over the LAN, there is CPU overhead caused by encapsulating the TCP/IP packets. I was able to put my system to 100% CPU by increasing the number of channels too high. That is why we use Fiber Channel for most of our large data bases. We are implementing 10G networking, we shall see how that goes...

     

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jls987
Level 3

Mouse, In this case we know what the error was.  Tape media, it's just the price of using tapes.  Our environment is slowly moving to a disk based storage solution, but it's going to take time.  I know how the backup works from the NBU side.  I was hoping for something to be added to the RMAN script that might help.  RMAN scripting is not something I do much of.

Marianne, It's nice to interact with you again.  It's been awhile and a few jobs later.  That link you provided may be helpful.  I have not seen the script they are using yet to know what they are doing.  We have a meeting in a little while to discuss this.  We did talk about making changes to the MPX as you mentioned, but we have not made those changes as of yet.  As I stated above, we'll be moving to disk, it's a slow process around here.  The new environment is stood up (8.x, BOOST with Data Domain), it's just a matter of when all the clients get moved over.  The first priority is the large VM environment without DB or other special needs.

I'm going to leave this "open" for a few more days in case an RMAN expert sees it and has any suggestions.

Genericus's avatar
Genericus
Moderator
7 years ago

I do not know of any mechanism to automatically restart channels, if one fails the job continues with one fewer channel.

Our only solution is to run the backup as SYSDATE-X, so the job could be restarted and not attempt to re-backup pieces already done. ALSO, we had our OPS staff monitor the job and kill and restart if the number of child jobs falls below a certain level. 

Most of our issues went away once we went to the data domains, so far they accept the data as fast as we can send it. We were able to increase the number of channels.

BEWARE! If you are sending packets over the LAN, there is CPU overhead caused by encapsulating the TCP/IP packets. I was able to put my system to 100% CPU by increasing the number of channels too high. That is why we use Fiber Channel for most of our large data bases. We are implementing 10G networking, we shall see how that goes...

 

  • jls987's avatar
    jls987
    Level 3
    7 years ago

    Genericus,  I was hoping you might chime in.  I saw the other thread that Marianne gave me the link to.  We unfortunatly don't have a 24x7 ops staff to monitor this stuff.  So it's not until Monday that we find out something happened and the backup is still running on fewer channels, if there was a failure.  I'm looking at the script(s) to see what they are doing and to have them add that SYSDATE parameter.  I spoke to teammates about just moving it to the new env, but what they really want to do is have the RMAN go direct to Data Domain for the larger DB and this one is 43TB.  So we have some options we're exploring.  Thanks eveyone for your input.

    • Genericus's avatar
      Genericus
      Moderator
      7 years ago

      I send mine directly to my data domains via Fiber channel and get excellent throughput. (and do not have those pesky tape issues) although it was not until recently they supported FC BOOST, so I was forced to use VTL. If you do VTL - make sure to use smaller tapes if you need to duplicate the images, I set mine as LTO3 and 50GB, so I get less tape contention when I duplicate them...

      I find I get better deduplication using FILESPERSET=1, although I get better throughput at FILESPERSET=3...

      BTW - my 40TB database restores from my data domain to my backup server FASTER then it backs up, which is nice...