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Media type - What is the difference between LTO and HCART?

Vijaya_S_Bugga
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What is the difference between LTO and HCART?

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RamNagalla
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in very normal Language  LTO is defind for tape Hardware

and Hcard it defind in Netbackup to identify different type of tapes and its Density. like LTO, LTO2, LTO5 etc...

Netbackup does not understand what is LTO, its only understand the Hcart language...

so its upto admin tasks to configure all  tapes simper to same type (ex: LTO LTO 4, LTO 5) under one Dencity(HCART)

Ex:- all LOT4 = Hcart

LTO5  = Hcart2

etc

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mph999
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Absolutely nothing.

It is simply a label, it has no technical meaning other than the tape and drive, must be the same 'density', and the rule is that for a tape to be allowed to be put into a drive the density must match.

So, an hcart2 tape will ONLY go into an hcart2 drive.

If the drive is LTO1, or LTO5, or 4mm, or DLT it makes no difference.  A drive can be any density.

It is easier to think of them as colours :

eg.  hcart = blue

hcart2 = green

4mm = pink

hcart3 = black

.. then a green tape (eg hcart 2) which physically can be any type of tape, will only go into a green drive.

There is one exception, never use qcart density (1/4 inch) - this is 'special' as it writes in a fixed block size, as this was a limitation of that type of drive.  You don't see these anymore so it is pretty much redundant.

Unfortunately, there are not enough hcart densities to go around as we have LTO1, LTO2, LTO3 etc ... so if you run out, just pick one of the others (apart from qcart), it (despite people trying to argue it with me in the past) will not affect tape capacity or performance.

Unfortunately, despite it appearing to be a simple concept, the 'density' is very well embedded in the NBU code so getting these densities changed or added to is not going to be happeneing any time soon.

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RamNagalla
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in very normal Language  LTO is defind for tape Hardware

and Hcard it defind in Netbackup to identify different type of tapes and its Density. like LTO, LTO2, LTO5 etc...

Netbackup does not understand what is LTO, its only understand the Hcart language...

so its upto admin tasks to configure all  tapes simper to same type (ex: LTO LTO 4, LTO 5) under one Dencity(HCART)

Ex:- all LOT4 = Hcart

LTO5  = Hcart2

etc

mph999
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Absolutely nothing.

It is simply a label, it has no technical meaning other than the tape and drive, must be the same 'density', and the rule is that for a tape to be allowed to be put into a drive the density must match.

So, an hcart2 tape will ONLY go into an hcart2 drive.

If the drive is LTO1, or LTO5, or 4mm, or DLT it makes no difference.  A drive can be any density.

It is easier to think of them as colours :

eg.  hcart = blue

hcart2 = green

4mm = pink

hcart3 = black

.. then a green tape (eg hcart 2) which physically can be any type of tape, will only go into a green drive.

There is one exception, never use qcart density (1/4 inch) - this is 'special' as it writes in a fixed block size, as this was a limitation of that type of drive.  You don't see these anymore so it is pretty much redundant.

Unfortunately, there are not enough hcart densities to go around as we have LTO1, LTO2, LTO3 etc ... so if you run out, just pick one of the others (apart from qcart), it (despite people trying to argue it with me in the past) will not affect tape capacity or performance.

Unfortunately, despite it appearing to be a simple concept, the 'density' is very well embedded in the NBU code so getting these densities changed or added to is not going to be happeneing any time soon.

areznik
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This is confusing because at some point the NB Media type designators somewhat matched the types of media avialable on the market, then it seems Veritas gave up on that and whatever types existed at the time is what we have now. 

So while the media types you see used to have meaning (for example hcart = half-inch cartridge) they are now just labels that can pretty much be put on any kind of tape. This is really a very clumsy system, but I dont expect it to change because if you ask your salesperson they will say something like: "no one uses tape" and "disk is the future" and "why not put your stuff in the cloud"... 

mph999
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I agree, it's certainly not ideal.  I've had the conversation with engineering, it's not going to change anytime soon.

But look at it the way I do, set your drives to <somedensity> and forget about it, it really (apart from qcart) makes no difference, apart from looking a bit wrong. 

 

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Time warp to 2010:

https://www-secure.symantec.com/connect/forums/confusion-dltdlt2dlt3

 

sdo
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Also see this HP doc re implementing mixed media types:

http://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/GetPDF.aspx%2F4AA5-0943ENW.pdf