yeah I read that after I posted. but we have had virus scan running in the past and never had a problem. the only change I have made in the past 6 months is add a new netware box to the backup job. plus they never came back and said yah or nah. if it was virus scan then it should error on backup, not on verify. would't you think? we run mcafee not norton, actually, no, on the backup box I do not run virus scan, but we run it on the boxes I backup. so the answer would be no :)