WIll SBS version protect other servers?

[Gregg_Hill_2]

I think older BE versions for SBS 2003 would not back up additional servers.

Now that the SBS version of BE10 only comes in the premium edition, will it back up only the SBS 2003 server or will it also back up additional servers if I purchase agents for them?

I want to be able to back up the SBS 2003 server, a 2000 Terminal Server in app mode, and a 2003 server running SQL 2000.

[John_Chisari]

It can backup other servers - you have been able to do this since 9.1 if you were running SBS2003.

But, note you can only install additional options for Remote Agent, AOFO and IDR.

You will not be able to add a SQL option serial number.

[ashwin_pawar]

John is absolutely correct.

[Gregg_Hill_2]

Hello, everyone!

After several calls to Ingram Micro and straight to Veritas Inside Sales, I was given the following answer regarding backing up a remote server running SQL on it.

First, here is the scenario I presented to Veritas:

"I am going to sell a Windows Server 2003 Small Business Server Standard edition server to a client. It does not have the built-in SQL (it will be the Standard SBS 2003 vs. Premium SBS 2003). They will also be purchasing a Windows Server 2003 server that will be running SQL 2000 on it and nothing else. So we will have an SBS 2003 Standard server, a second server running Windows Server 2003 Standard with SQL 2000, and some version of Backup Exec 10."

Now for the back and forth conversation between Ingram Micro and Veritas:

I have been told by Ingram Micro's Veritas people that in order to back up the SQL on the remote server, that I have to buy the full Backup Exec 10 product, not the SBS version, then add a Remote Server Agent and an SQL Agent to it. They say that is the ONLY way to back up the SBS server and the remote 2003/SQL Server.

I called Veritas Inside Sales three different times, because Ingram insisted their way was correct. Ingram claimed that the Veritas method violated Veritas' licensing model for their SBS version of BE 10. Veritas told me that Ingram Micro was wrong. All three Veritas people said I can buy the SBS version of Backup Exec 10, buy an SBS version of the Remote Agent so that the remote 2003 server then becomes visible to BE 10, and have the SQL Agent built into the SBS version of Backup Exec 10 back up the remote instance of SQL 2000. He said all the SBS Backup Exec server had to do was be able to see the remote server, which the SBS Remote Server Agent would do, and then it could back up SQL on that remote server.

I called again a few minutes ago and the lady with whom I spoke answered the same way: that I can buy the SBS version of Backup Exec 10, buy an SBS Remote Server Agent, and use the SQL agent in the SBS version of Backup Exec to back up the remote instance of SQL 2000 running on a remote Windows Server 2003 system. She called Ingram's people to straighten out their thinking. She strongly assured me it is NOT a violation of their licensing model to do it that way.

Summary:
Backup Exec 10 SBS version will back up ONE instance of SQL, and that SQL instance does NOT have to be on the actual SBS server. It can be a remote server IF you buy an SBS Remote Server Agent so the SBS backup server can see the remote server. Other remote servers can also be backed up if you buy an SBS Remote Server Agent for them as well.

That should clear up the matter!

Thank you Veritas!

[Denis_Kelley]

Gregg,
Did you ever deploy this? I have just gotten the runaround at Veritas the same way you did with Ingram. I have your scenario deployed perfectly with 9.1, but have another situation for a new network and wanted to confirm I could still do this with 10.0.

Still haven't received an answer and I saw your post. Would love to know before landing the project. Please feel free to email me if you wish at denis@trgnetworking.com

Thanks,
Denis

> Hello, everyone!
>
> After several calls to Ingram Micro and straight to
> Veritas Inside Sales, I was given the following
> answer regarding backing up a remote server running
> SQL on it.
>
> First, here is the scenario I presented to Veritas:
>
> "I am going to sell a Windows Server 2003 Small
> Business Server Standard edition server to a client.
> It does not have the built-in SQL (it will be the
> Standard SBS 2003 vs. Premium SBS 2003). They will
> also be purchasing a Windows Server 2003 server that
> will be running SQL 2000 on it and nothing else. So
> we will have an SBS 2003 Standard server, a second
> server running Windows Server 2003 Standard with SQL
> 2000, and some version of Backup Exec 10."
>
> Now for the back and forth conversation between
> Ingram Micro and Veritas:
>
> I have been told by Ingram Micro's Veritas people
> that in order to back up the SQL on the remote
> server, that I have to buy the full Backup Exec 10
> product, not the SBS version, then add a Remote
> Server Agent and an SQL Agent to it. They say that is
> the ONLY way to back up the SBS server and the remote
> 2003/SQL Server.
>
> I called Veritas Inside Sales three different times,
> because Ingram insisted their way was correct. Ingram
> claimed that the Veritas method violated Veritas'
> licensing model for their SBS version of BE 10.
> Veritas told me that Ingram Micro was wrong. All
> three Veritas people said I can buy the SBS version
> of Backup Exec 10, buy an SBS version of the Remote
> Agent so that the remote 2003 server then becomes
> visible to BE 10, and have the SQL Agent built into
> the SBS version of Backup Exec 10 back up the remote
> instance of SQL 2000. He said all the SBS Backup Exec
> server had to do was be able to see the remote
> server, which the SBS Remote Server Agent would do,
> and then it could back up SQL on that remote server.
>
> I called again a few minutes ago and the lady with
> whom I spoke answered the same way: that I can buy
> the SBS version of Backup Exec 10, buy an SBS Remote
> Server Agent, and use the SQL agent in the SBS
> version of Backup Exec to back up the remote instance
> of SQL 2000 running on a remote Windows Server 2003
> system. She called Ingram's people to straighten out
> their thinking. She strongly assured me it is NOT a
> violation of their licensing model to do it that
> way.
>
> Summary:
> Backup Exec 10 SBS version will back up ONE instance
> of SQL, and that SQL instance does NOT have to be on
> the actual SBS server. It can be a remote server IF
> you buy an SBS Remote Server Agent so the SBS backup
> server can see the remote server. Other remote
> servers can also be backed up if you buy an SBS
> Remote Server Agent for them as well.
>
> That should clear up the matter!
>
> Thank you Veritas!