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Mailbox will not auto-archive

John_F2011
Level 3

We're running EV 7.5 with Exchange 2007 SP2 mail system .

Everything seems to work apart from auto-archiving for one user. He has the same archiving policy as other people, is on the same Exchange server as other people, but auto-archiving won't work and has never worked. Manual archiving works fine.

I have disabled/re-enabled archiving on the mailbox, re-synced the mailbox with EV.

Can anyone suggest any places to go for troubleshooting or any other steps to take?

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JesusWept3
Level 6
Partner Accredited Certified

Open up the Vault Admin Console and go to "Policies -> Exchange -> Mailbox", find the exchange policy that your users use.
Double click the policy (or right click and go to properties)

Click on the Archiving Rules tab:
What do you have this set to? Based on Age, Based on Quota or Based on Age and Quota?
What do you ahve the rest of the settings set to? especially the "Never Archive Items Younger Than" setting
Also are you telling it to only archive items with attachments? this is listed on the same page aat the bottom

Next click the Archiving Actions:
What are these set to? Archive Unread Items by default is unchecked, however some users (i am guilty of this) of just accumulating stupid amounts of unread messages, and if this policy requires the items to be read, then they just never get archived.
Also the Create Shortcut is another one to look out for, if this is unchecked and Delete Original is unchecked then items will be archived, but the email in the mailbox will be left intact, so the items remain in the store as any other email

The problem is though, that you then have a large mailbox and its difficult to determine what items should be archived and what items have already been archived, and you may see a large group of items that will not archive again because they've been stamped to say they've been archived already etc

Now click the "Message Classes" tab
This is an important one, any of these message classes unchecked means it won't be archived.
So if you have same IPM.Note* unchecked, it means regular email won't be archived
If you wish to be archiving calendar items, make sure that you have IPM.Appointment* checked, otherwise they will be ignored

A large amount of items accumulate in a mailbox and they tend to be calendar items, people don't usually do a good job of going back and getting rid of really old appointments especially with large attachments

That being said, go to the "Advanced" button
First one is Archive Deleted Items folder, this is by default set to "Off" so any items sitting in the users Deleted Items, regardless of age, size, message class will not be archived, and this can account for a large bulk of mailbox size, plus if you are using Mailbox Archiving for psuedo compliance reasons, you should probably be archiving email that users might want to delete

Next there is the Archive Exchange Managed Folders, introduced in Exchange Server 2007, you could give everyone defined folders that have their own retention set there, so an exchange admin could give everyone a folder such as "1 Year" and users could put their email there and Exchange would not automatically delete the email for 1 year etc

By Default Enterprise Vault has a setting of "Managed" meaning it will archive the items there but automatically create a retention in Enterprise Vault that matches that of the Managed Folder, so if the Exchange Admins have given the managed folder a retention of 180 days or something like that, EV will read that, create a 180 day retention category and any item it archives will also be given that 180 day retention category

There is an option to be "Off" however which means that Enterprise Vault will simply ignore the folder, when it determines a folder is managed it will simply skip it, so no items in that folder will be archived at all, if this is set and your exchange admins have applied a managed folder policy against \Inbox, then it is possible EV is just ignoring the majority of your email because thats what its been told to do.

The setting most admins prefer is "Normal" so Enterprise Vault treats it just like any other folder.


Other settings you want to look at in this advanced colum are
Archive Unexpired Calendar Events
Do Not Archive Pending Reminders
Maximum Message Size To Archive In MB
Strip Attachments for non shortcut Items

https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-allen-turl-07370146

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Rob_Wilcox1
Level 6
Partner

Have you do a run now in report mode against the mailbox?

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John_F2011
Level 3

Hi

Do you know how exactly I'd run a report now against only the one mailbox? I've searched the web but there are no exact instructions on how to do this for one mailbox only.

And what would I be looking for?

Rob_Wilcox1
Level 6
Partner

Run now of the task, choose "Run Mode": Report.. then do it for "Select Mailbox", and pick your user.

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John_F2011
Level 3

Thanks for that. I ran the task only for that user, but no report was generated. I then tried running for all mailboxes and, again, nothing was generated.

I am looking in Program Files\Enterprise Vault\Reports on the EV server. There are no sub-folders in this folder but there are other, older, reports.

 

Rob_Wilcox1
Level 6
Partner

That's very strange.  It's hard to troubleshoot something like that "over the forums" as it were.  I'd suggest a call to Support.

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John_F2011
Level 3

Somehow it started working again.

Looking at the file:

No of archivable items: 20,000

No of items ready to archive: 0

No of messages that would be archived: 0

The user definately has items to archive, and is on the same policy as everyone else. But I can also see Event ID 3367 in the Event Log, "there were too few archivable items to take mailbox below quota level"

Anyone seen this problem before? The mailbox is almost at capacity, so no problem of there not being items to archive!

JesusWept3
Level 6
Partner Accredited Certified

What do you have the Policy set to for Quotas in the EV Exchange archiving policy?
The reasoning could be due to message class, read vs unread, message size, folders with do not archive against them through EVPM, could be managed folders which EV is set to ignore, it could be that the bulk of the items are calendar items and the task is set to not archive calendar items etc etc

https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-allen-turl-07370146

John_F2011
Level 3

The quota is set to 20%

In terms of message class, read/unread etc, how would I see that? Where do I need to go to view this?

JesusWept3
Level 6
Partner Accredited Certified

Open up the Vault Admin Console and go to "Policies -> Exchange -> Mailbox", find the exchange policy that your users use.
Double click the policy (or right click and go to properties)

Click on the Archiving Rules tab:
What do you have this set to? Based on Age, Based on Quota or Based on Age and Quota?
What do you ahve the rest of the settings set to? especially the "Never Archive Items Younger Than" setting
Also are you telling it to only archive items with attachments? this is listed on the same page aat the bottom

Next click the Archiving Actions:
What are these set to? Archive Unread Items by default is unchecked, however some users (i am guilty of this) of just accumulating stupid amounts of unread messages, and if this policy requires the items to be read, then they just never get archived.
Also the Create Shortcut is another one to look out for, if this is unchecked and Delete Original is unchecked then items will be archived, but the email in the mailbox will be left intact, so the items remain in the store as any other email

The problem is though, that you then have a large mailbox and its difficult to determine what items should be archived and what items have already been archived, and you may see a large group of items that will not archive again because they've been stamped to say they've been archived already etc

Now click the "Message Classes" tab
This is an important one, any of these message classes unchecked means it won't be archived.
So if you have same IPM.Note* unchecked, it means regular email won't be archived
If you wish to be archiving calendar items, make sure that you have IPM.Appointment* checked, otherwise they will be ignored

A large amount of items accumulate in a mailbox and they tend to be calendar items, people don't usually do a good job of going back and getting rid of really old appointments especially with large attachments

That being said, go to the "Advanced" button
First one is Archive Deleted Items folder, this is by default set to "Off" so any items sitting in the users Deleted Items, regardless of age, size, message class will not be archived, and this can account for a large bulk of mailbox size, plus if you are using Mailbox Archiving for psuedo compliance reasons, you should probably be archiving email that users might want to delete

Next there is the Archive Exchange Managed Folders, introduced in Exchange Server 2007, you could give everyone defined folders that have their own retention set there, so an exchange admin could give everyone a folder such as "1 Year" and users could put their email there and Exchange would not automatically delete the email for 1 year etc

By Default Enterprise Vault has a setting of "Managed" meaning it will archive the items there but automatically create a retention in Enterprise Vault that matches that of the Managed Folder, so if the Exchange Admins have given the managed folder a retention of 180 days or something like that, EV will read that, create a 180 day retention category and any item it archives will also be given that 180 day retention category

There is an option to be "Off" however which means that Enterprise Vault will simply ignore the folder, when it determines a folder is managed it will simply skip it, so no items in that folder will be archived at all, if this is set and your exchange admins have applied a managed folder policy against \Inbox, then it is possible EV is just ignoring the majority of your email because thats what its been told to do.

The setting most admins prefer is "Normal" so Enterprise Vault treats it just like any other folder.


Other settings you want to look at in this advanced colum are
Archive Unexpired Calendar Events
Do Not Archive Pending Reminders
Maximum Message Size To Archive In MB
Strip Attachments for non shortcut Items

https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-allen-turl-07370146